Well people this post is dedicated to someone whom almost everyone believes in except for me. I believe that god is no more than a virtual creation of an object by man which does not exist. Well forget about my believing’s and let’s come to the point. People like nishika and n.dhat……(long name ) believe that in god, no perverted things exist . Well let me provide light to there blind and dark faith on god. In short these are the facts which tell u about the things which u have been worshipping for year's without even knowing what it is.
Each fact stated here has its source of proof along with it.
First let me start of with Ram and Sita the divine god
RAM AND SITA
MANY WIVES TO God RAMA!!!!!
Mr. C.R. Sreenivasa Iyengar's translation of Valmiki Ramayana says:
1.Though Rama had married Sita to be the queen, he married many other
wives for sexual pleasure in accordance with the royal customs (Ayothia
Kandam 8.. Chapter, Page 28). The term Rama's wives has been used
many places in Ramayana.
HOW God RAMA BROKE THE BOW?
The bow that was broken by Rama was Sita's. This bow was already a
broken one. (Refer Abidhana Chintamani Paged
157,331,57l,663,894,1151,1173 and 1494).
24. This is supported by various Ramayanas and Prasumm
HOW God RAMA ENJOYED?
God Rama narrated his own brother (Lakshman) how he enjoyed his wife
Sita (Kisikinda kandam . Chapter 1 Pages 2,4,5,6 & 7). (For deeney.s
sake, we didn.t elaborate these chapters).
GOD RAMA SUSPECTED SITA!
God Rama asked Sita.How could Ravana have left you (during these 12
years) without being seduced?
Sita replied. .True! But what could 1 do? i am only a weaker sex. My body
was in RAVANA's possession. I did not do anything wrong WILLINGLY.
However, mentally I was with you. It was only divine will. But she did not
assert herself that .Ravana has not seduced me.. (Uttara Kandam, Chapter
118).
GOD RAMA ABANDONED SITA!
Seeing her pregnancy Rama.s doubt increased. Rama asked her to
plunge herself into the fire and come out to prove her chastity. Even
though Sita had under gone this trial prescribed by Rama, yet Rama
found out Sita.s pregnancy. Rama took shelter under the charge made by
the citizen and ordered his brother Lakshman to take Sita to the forest
and leave her there. Then Sita showing her abdomen to Lakshmana said,
.See my stomach! My pregnancy is four months old. (Uttara Kandam,
Chapter 118)
SITAS RESPECT TO God RAMA!!!
1.Sita told Rama You are no better than a woman monger who lets his wife
for hire and makes his livelihood. You want to be profited by my
PROSTITUTION.. Sita also told Rama .You lack impotence manners and
charm.. .She called her husband a simpleton..
Sita having scented that Rama was always suspicious of her conduct
exclaimed .Rama! You are my savior! In none but yourself I repose my
love. This many a time I swear by you; yet you do not believe me!
Rama said I tested you. (6,7,8,9,10 & 11 Ayothia Kandam, Chapter 30).
2.Rama having in mind her pompousness and fragility of mind directed her
that she should strip off all her ornaments if she were to accompany him
the forest. Sita did accordingly but again she put on some other jewels
without the knowledge of Rama (Ayothia Kanda, Chapter 30)
3. Kausalya who was noticing this advised Sita to behave like a bobble and
virtuous lady. Do not disregarded your husband's worth.. Sita insolently
replied to her mother-in-law, .I know all this.. Yet she did not remove
her jewels (Ayothia Kandarn, Chapter 37).
4. She prayed to the river while crossing it ..Oh! River! If I return safely to
ayothia I will offer you a thousand cows and a thousand pots of toddy..
(Ayothia Kandam, Chapter 52).
5. Whenever Rama was languishing in the disappearance of Sita, Lakshmana
casually remarked. .Why do you bother yourself for an ordinary woman?.
(Aranya Kandam Chapter 66).
6. Lakshxnana expressed that Sita was a woman of questionable character.
(Aranya Kandani, Chapter 18).
7. When Lakshmana expressed that Sita was a woman of questionable
character. (Aranya Kandam, Chapter 18).
8. As soon as Sita stepped into Ravana's palace her love towards Ravana
grew more (AranyaKandam, Chapter 54).
9. When at length Rama asked Sita to swear, she declined and died. (lttara
kandam, Chapter 97).
10. Kukuvavthy, sister-in-law of Rama said to him .Oh! Elder! How you love
Sita more than you love yourself. Come with me and see what really is in
your lovely wife.s heart. Still she could not forget that fellow Ravana.
Drawings picture of Ravana on a hand-fan and pressing it closely to her
breast. She is lying on your bed with eyes closed thinking on and
rejoicing at Ravana.s glories. Rama sighed and went out to Sita.s
apartment. She was found sleeping pressing her breast the hand-fan in
which Ravana.s picture was drawn. This is found in pages 199, 200 of
Bangali Ramayana written by Mrs. Chandravathi. Also Sita was caught red
handed by Rama that she had drawn the picture of Ravana
Lord Shiva
The god who is believed to be as a destructor is actually the god of fertility of Hindu mythology. The facts which I found about him are shocking and beleive me you’ll also fell that shock.
LINGAM & YONI
Do you know what is Lingam? Better see the Oxford Dictionary. 
There are so many Lingam, viz siva Lingam, Rama Lingam, etc. (Lingam means male
sexual organ-penis). In Hinduism people can worship everything. Also they pour over
the God.s lingam milk, ghee and Panchamirtham etc. Even people name their children
as Siva Lingam (God Siva.s sexual organ), Rama Lingam (God Rama.s sexual organ)
and so on.
Also do you know what is Yoni? Oxford dictionary offers no meaning, but Webster
dictionary has,. (Yoni means female sexual organ)
THE TANDAV
Thiruvalangadu, north of Madras, is associated with the dance contest between Shiva and his consort in the form of Kali. According to legend, Shiva danced vigorously, and to subdue Kali, threw up his leg in the rhythm of the dance. Being a lady, Kali could not repeat this feat and stood dismayed. This dance and the subjugation of Kali, are described in the hymns of the female saint-poet Karaikkal Ammai.
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But i want to say one thing how does believing in God relates to all the things which the post was about
God exist in every mythology. So it ultimately depends upon you whether u wannan believe it or not.
So it varies whether you believe in Gnesis or tha God is an imagination of man
going along the same line of thought, wud u say that miracles are nothing but coincidences...
so, with it arises the age old fate vs free will question (basically, all the matrix philosophies...)
ok dude
first things first people liek you have a tendency to exaggerate stuff
these holy men existed lord rama and all and they were supposed to have freed teh world from evil--ravana
now all these facts whoich surround this general fact is basically due to the summed up exaggeration of generations of ppl like you..so mrs chantrawhoever writes a ramayana and says all kinds of crap in it..what is more man even u can write one and write all kinds of crap in it..that doesnt become true...
God's the same. Doesn't matter what you call God.
What we say about RAMA or SHIVA or so on is "MYTHOLOGY", it is not to be confused to God. It is just an invention of man to interact with God.
IShaan :-
gotta agree with tejas
i hope u now understand ankit from wat other ppl have said. its wat u believe in and wat u dont . its all about faith, nthn u say or prove can change atleast few ppl's belief . so its much better if u believe wat u want 2 and let us believe wat we want 2 .
Oye aaj kal sab kaam-dhaam chodkar yeh sab karta hai kya!!Ramayana koh bhi nahi baksha. Typical dipsite attitude, salla har jageh pe porn dhoondhte hain!!
P.S.did u ppl know he's told all this to our maths teacher Lakshmi ma'am, way to go dude!!!
hmmm. these days there's quite a lot of money in going from doorstep to doorstep with pictures of deities and acting the sadhu. So all you Sanskrit learners, you've got a job opportuinity, grab it before it goes out of fashion.
Even though i dont learn sanskrit anymore...but knowin it for 6 yrs..
tejas all i can say is..get outta india..go to france and there ull get good job opportunities.if u dont like france go to Montreal,canada where again ull find good opportunities..
Tejas:-think b4 u comment..
rohit man
its so sad u dont have a sense of humor
dude,it so sad u dont have a good sense of humor,dude it tit for tat for u..
french::sanskrit
ishaan:-
If someone doesn't beieve in popular mythology then i think that instead of thinking theres no God we shall start praying to God in our own...just ask,thank or do anything else for what u want in life.
Just my POV.
Hey, French is not :: Sanskrit
Latin :: Sanskrit
French is an alive and kickin language, which really yes could give me any kind of job opportunities in France (though I doubt I really will ever be able to actually speak it).
Sanskrit, like Latin, is an extinct language. It won't get you anywhere except in the temple singing hymns.
dude..what i meant to say was and which u wrongly interpreted was that as u r learin french same way i learnt sanskrit..
if i get a job by becomin a sadhu which i wont,same way u can go to france.
and yeah i know sanskrit wont take me anywhere but atleast i know of an indigenous language which very few people in this world know.
this in no way is derogatory to the french peeps.
Ishaan:-
rohit
solve this for a change
Below are thirteen words, each of which has had two letters removed. The remaining letters are in the correct order. Between them, the thirteen words have had the letters A-Z removed, each once only. Can you find the original words?
BAG
DED
DIA
UOA
IDE
OEL
UMS
PIY
GOU
NAL
CRA
UMB
DTY
my word of advice for u after seeing the post - Dont exaggerate stuff beyond a certain limit.
add my blog to ur list ...
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is hee baat per...joke ho jaaye..infact fact ho jaaye
sorry for the guys who r too religious but this thing is true.
see when Lord krishnas unlce(mama)(kans?) knew that his sisters 14th child is gonna kill him..then why the hell did he keep lord krishnas mom and dad together?
now thats a fact..beleive it or not!
hey ankit!!!
thnx for includin me in ur blogroll but u need to correct one of the links: the one that points to crazyfriendz is named as some girl(Anonymous)
Its not anonymous yaar...was firstly developed by me and then had a large no. of contributors, all dipsites, to its list
you're still obsessed with that thing, eh???? did you read all of ramayan or something?? well, you know what, god doesn't like this at all...and he is certainly going to punish you..LOL...but let me clear a point out, linga also means snake, which is a far more respectable and logical point than the stupid sexuality you're talking about...i believe some of the stuff you said about the Ram and Sita controversy, but linga defintely is snake. so like us dipsites...
and now...where is my LOLLY??? i didn't visit your blog for nothing you know...
write more often is my only comment, because your posts might be worth reading...i know the stereotypicals :D
cheers
Shayeri
Dude whats wid ur other serialsforu??
nice man..make me a member too pls.
thanks
You seem to a highly anti-God guy and you seem to take only negative thoughts out of everything. It is high time that you need to be informed of good things. Please also say some "good" things like this about Islam, Christianity. You will get immediately flogged to death. That is tolerant Hinduism for you.
You never mentioned about the good qualities of Rama. BTW, Rama perfectly knew that Sita was a chaste woman and there are examples to prove that in the books you had mentioned. People could write many corrupted versions of Ramayana but will Rama's character and Sita's character change because of that?
For ankit, this is the matter on Why Rama Abandoned Sita? Sita loved ONLY Rama and Rama never thought of anyone except Sita. It is clear when Rama was asked to remarry for ashwamedha sacrifice and she married a Gold made woman idol of Sita reaffirming his love for her.
Then Why did he Abandon Sita?
Why did Rama abandon his beloved wife Sita, after having fought a war to regain her ?
That crucial question has bugged me for the best part of a decade. Yes, I have heard of all the plausible arguments in favour of democracy and public opinion and how Rama really loved Sita but had to do it for the love of “duty” etc. None of this made sense. Indeed, which part of Dharma Shastra would allow him, as a caring King and a husband to abandon a pregnant woman ?
This is particularly galling when you consider that this is the same Rama that helped rehabilitate the sagely Ahalyaji. In Ahalya’s case, here we have a woman who has been raped under the guise of Indra pretending to be her husband. She is than duly abandoned by Rishi Gautam and cursed in the bargain ! How unfair is this ? To be raped and cursed for being raped ! To punish a victim for crimes committed against them is unfair and unreasonable in any society. Yes, Rishi Gautam felt hurt and betrayed, but there was no reason to take it out on his innocent wife ! He even protested that she must have known the difference between her husband and someone pretending to be the same – so surely, she is guilty !!
Ahalyaji was raped in the darkest part of the night – just before pre-dawn, at a time when her husband was out and about to take the morning bath in the river. There is no way she could have known in that light if it was Rishi Gautam or not. Only his macho manliness required him to punish the culprits and in his rage, he cursed the innocent aswell as the guilty.
Condemned by her husband, Ahalya lived unacknowledged, unwelcome, in an ashram full of people that should have been compassionate to her. She lived so ignored by the community, that she might as well as have been a stone ! Hence the reference to Ahalya as shalya – stone.
Rama felt the injustice of the sentenced passed by society on an innocent woman. Woman condemned by her aggressor and her peers. A woman who had no way to redress the system that had wronged her so badly, had someone who was at the pinnacle of the system to stand up for her. Rama stood by her. That scion of Raghuvansha, descendant of Suraya, prince of the clan of Bhagirath. He came to stand beside the woman no one wanted to know. Once he stood by her, everyone was bound to re-examine their own stance.
In our modern age, Princess Diana used the same thing to bring AIDs victims out of the cold and into the full glare of the media, into the warmth of human rights. Her touching and talking to AIDs victims without gloves and masks made everyone feel it was OK for them to do the same.
The great and good of the world can make a huge difference by whom they choose to associate themselves with. The causes they support, suddenly become talk of the town. Society always looks up to its leaders to set an example for them. Krushna says as much to Arjun in the Bhagvad Gita – The acts of the great are seen as guides by the masses, hence the great have a great responsibility to behave in a manner that inspires the society to better itself.
Rama was a great prince. His association with Ahalyaji would propel her cause, the cause of all wronged women, into the lime light. It would set an example of how compassion and kindness should replace coldness of social ostracization.
Rama helped rehabilitate Ahalyaji. He brought her out of social exile and had her reunited with her family.
This was an act of great compassion for a young prince, not even married yet !
Even during his exile, Rama continued his task of helping to rehabilitate those whom the society considered too uncouth to communicate with. He spoke to Guha, the leader of the fisher folk. He also ate with Shabri, the aboriginal. No one would sit and eat, let alone have any social relationships with the tribal people living in the deepest, darkest jungles of India. Rama did. He not only sought them out, he made them feel at ease with him – the might prince of Kaushal ! Rama’s association with Shabri helped establish her as a sagely woman of great wisdom. Once accepted by the great student of great Vashishtha and Vishvamitra, Rama, everyone began to seek her out !
Rama went further and made crucial alliance of friendship between himself and the Vanar prince Sugriv. It was a friendship, a relationship between equals – not between a prince and a tribal, but prince and a prince !! This is the special relationship between Rama’s progress through the Southern lands and friendships he fostered between different communities he found there.
Let us not forget, he fought the high cast brahmin’s court, that of Ravan, and not the non-Aryan communities in-between. The Rakshashas are the step brothers of the Devas, and Rama fought them. He made the vanars – people whom the Aryans considered to be little more evolved than monkeys, his blood brothers and brought them into the main stream of the society.
Rama helped yet another woman regain her social standing – Tara – queen of Kishkindha during the rule of Vali and Sugrive. Though initially wedded to Sugrive, she was later commandeered by Vali and later returned to Sugrive. She had a son – Angada - during her time with Vali and Rama promised to make sure he would not suffer politically or socially in the new era. Rama made sure Angad was made the crown-prince and Tara restored to the position of queen and future queen-mother. The laws and rules of the Vanar community were respected – Tara’s forced change of marital partner was the way tribal communities ruled and some still do. Rama, by supporting Angada, introduced progressive elements in to the society and encouraged ideas of compassion. Under normal circumstances, it seems, Angada would have died as the off-spring of the old enemy and Tara would have had to swallow that pain in the name of social order. No more. Rama showed that Tara had no choice in her situation and the society should treat her with compassion and understanding.
After the defeat of Ravan, the mortal enemy of Rama, Mandodari, his supreme queen, comes out to grieve over her unfaithful husband. This was a man who had a roving eye and kidnapped many women to satisfy his lust. Mandodari, as his first wife, was secure in her position, but, powerless to restrain him. Her security came from being the first to wed him, but powerlessness came from knowing her husband has a lustful man who knew no restraint. Being the super power of his time, he knew no one would stand up to him. He took what he wanted, when he wanted, from where he wanted. If the gods could not restrain him, how could Mandodari ?
Rama recognised this. Why should she be punished for his avarice ? He called her a Sati, and honoured her as a paragon of the virtue of patience. He gave her the honours due to the widow of the fallen hero. Ravan was anything but that, but Mandodari should not be punished for that !
So, first we have Ahalya, a woman punished for being the victim of someone’s lust.
We than have a woman, Shabri, punished for being born in the “wrong cast”.
Another, Tara, was the victim of political and social powers beyond her.
Yet another, Mandodari, feared being ostracised for being the wife of a bad man.
Rama stood by all of these women.
Not only that, he supported them and helped them being rehabilitated into the society.
So this is the biography of Rama.
Why would such a kind, compassionate, inclusive, progressive person punish his own innocent wife with exile ?
Rama battled this sort of bigotry all his life. If you look at the list of the greatest Pati-Vrata-Naries – ladies who are considered to be the most devoted to their husbands – four are from Rama’s time. Ahalya, Tara, Mandodari and Sita !
So, why would Sita suffer what others had been spared ?
Sita was not raped, Ahalya was.
Sita was born into the royal family, yet lived like the tribal – Shabri for the best part of her life.
Sita’s sons were legitimate, unlike Tara’s, and yet, their birthright was snatched from them even before birth.
Sita’s husband was the paragon of Dharma, yet, she suffered insults even Mandodari was spared !!
Why ?
Rama knew, for sure, that Sita was unmolested by Ravan. Yet, why did he not stand by her as he stood by Ahalya ? If Rama forced the society to change its views of Ahalya, why did he not do the same for Sita ?
Rama gave Angada the rights reserved for a crown prince, why did he not protect the rights of his own sons ? He was able to change centuries of social norm for Tara, so why not for Sita ?
Rama guarded the rights and honours of a woman who was the wife of a veritable monster. Why did he not guard the very basic rights of his own wife ?
No, this article is not a feminist attack on Rama. I have set out the scene of Rama’s previous social activities so that we can explore the reasons why Rama abandoned Sitaji.
Rama was a leader. Like all leaders, he lived his life in the full glare of the public. Everyone knew his life, inside out. There was nothing he could hide in his life. To please people around himself, he did everything necessary to make them happy. He even abandoned his mother and kingdom to prove what a law abiding (Dharma Dhurandhar), wonderful son he was. His reward, exile and adulation.
And, the exile was oh-so-long and the adulation was so, so short !
Society, any society, is fickle. They raise you to the pinnacle one minute and dash you in to the dust the very next minute without a second thought. You cannot please people all the time. People are cruel and will remember bad parts more so than the good ones.
The very people who welcomed Rama and Sita as their life and soul, later smirked and gossiped about them behind their back. Surely, others of greater intelligence and eloquence must have muted the ideas before the washer man spoke them aloud ! The washer man was but the most out-spoken proponent of these gossips.
Gossip is one thing people love the most. Gossip is the killer of any utopia. Rama-Rajya, the utopia of Hindu scriptures, was seriously flawed because just as the people enjoyed the “perfect rule”, its “perfect ruler” led a hollow life. Without the love of his life, Rama was incomplete and unhappy.
Rama found that once doubt found a foothold in the mind of his subjects, it was impossible to dislodge it. No amount of Agni-sanas could remove this doubt, as doubt, by its very nature, is founded on feelings and not on facts. No amounts of proofs, given by the very Gods, could remove the doubts, as doubt fractures the very foundation of faith and once faith is gone, all the rest is useless.
Rama knew this.
As an idealistic young man, he could fight for Ahalya, Shabri and even Tara. He could challenge the social norms and moralities with the zeal of a rebellious youth, believing that he can do anything he puts his mind to. How many young people, even today, believe they can do what generations before them have not been able to ?
But, as a mature ruler, Rama found life to be very different. Out of power, he could do no wrong. People adored him no matter what he did, as he was worse off than they (the people) were. If they lived in modest houses, Rama lived in a mud hut, in the middle of the jungle. How could they not love him ?
But now, living in a palace, he was in a better place than them. He could now be criticized. Rama knew this too. He had to lead an unblemished life. Be whiter than white and give no reason for anyone to find any flaws in the façade of his perfect life.
But, even his most strenuous efforts could not stop the fire of doubt spreading across his capital. Once tainted by gossip, there was little he could do to shake it off. Those who pointed fingers at Rama and Sita, lead less than perfect lives themselves. But, they expected Rama and Sita to lead an exemplary life, well beyond the capability of anyone.
“Let he who is innocent, cast the first stone.”
Sadly, there are no innocents around.
Even more sadly, the more guilty they are, the harder they stone you.
They stoned Sita’s reputation very hard.
Without proof, without reason, without remorse, they punished Sita for a crime she did not commit.
Rama could do nothing to protect her. If he did, he would be accused of favouritism. For sake of political correctness, he had to step back and let the cruel drama unfold. He could intervene, but not without leaving everything he had worked for behind him and leaving with his wife to the unanimous life somewhere else, far from Kaushal. He could not do that. To abandon his perfect plan of a perfect society was too much for him.
He took the only option open to him – the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.
He abandoned any chance of happiness in his life for the happiness of his people.
He abandoned Sitaji and sent her back to the forests she loved so much !
He sought the help of sage Valmiki in this matter, as he was one of the most progressive people around at the time.
But, he still loved Sitaji. More than ever !
When his people demanded he remarry for the Ashvamedha Yagna, Rama had enough. He placed a golden statue of Sita in place of his wife and challenged his kingdom to disprove him. He could have made the statue out of anything, stone, wood, silver, but why gold ? Just as gold never tarnishes, Sita in his view could never have a tarnished reputation. Sita was his wife, even in abstentia. Marriage was a personal matter and no amount of public opinion could shake him from it. He had enough of running his life being guided by public opinion. No more ! He could abandon a queen for peace amongst his people, but he would never abandon his wife ! Tough talk – if only he had done it a few years earlier !
You cannot run your life on public opinion. If anything, that is the flaw in RamaRajya.
Democracy, or public consensus are great ideas, but often lead to the common denominator – and that is usually the lowest common denominator. There is nothing to gain from going for the common denominator.
Rama and Sita could not live life with so many responsibilities and so little reward for it ! Sitaji kept fighting off suspicious rumours about her and her sons. Eventually, she stood up to them – not like Rama with his allegorical golden Sita, but a concrete affirmation of who and what she was. Sitaji said, in no uncertain way, "Accept me as I am. If you don’t, the loss is yours, not mine."
There is an old poem by Kalapi that says - "Dayahin thayo raja, raasahin thai dhara". When the king become merciless, the very Earth of that kingdom losses its essence. Just as the Earth cracks when it is totally dry, without any moisture, without any life, without any Raasa, eventually, Rama and Sita both cracked. Sitaji preferred to be away from such an unforgiving society. It was our loss.
Anytime we do not stand up to the cruel dictates of our family / community / society / country / work-place - we are condemning one more Sita. Stand up and be counted. Be in charge of your life ! Don't let others rule your life for you !!
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